Dead 8800 GTX scienced to undeath by oven, mad owner

Bobby Miller (UPSLynx) Icrontic's Bobby Miller went Frankenstein on a dead 8800 GTX and restored it to life with panic, happy thoughts... And an oven preheated to 385°F.

November 11, 2009 7:36 PM ET in Articles, , , , , ,

mad_science“BRB, preheating oven.”

Thus were my words to Icrontic’s staff on Monday night. I had only been home from work for an hour and was planning on running some PhysX tests with my NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX. I currently main a Radeon HD 5770 because DirectX 11 is teh pwnage, but I keep my trusty 8800 GTX on standby as it still packs a punch, and it’s hip to the PhysX jive.

I swap GPUs as necessary, depending on what I want to do. Icrontic Gaming writer Chris White predicted that my card-swapping antics would eventually lead to failure. Unfortunately for me, Chris predicted the fate of my GPU, which happened only three hours later.

After installing my 8800 GTX on Monday night, I booted to a scrambled screen, then to a Windows 7 recovery screen. A similar thing had happened at our Oktoberfest event when I was swapping back from some Radeon HD 5870 testing, but a reboot fixed the issue and I paid it no mind. Like last time, a reboot seemed to fix the issue and I set about my business as usual.

Suddenly, after about 15 minutes of use, the screen scrambled into all-too-familiar colored blocks and lines. The GPU was fried. I performed a host of tests with no luck–my 8800 had seen its last polygon. Devastated and heartbroken (we geeks become attached to our hardware), I entered the staff chat to find comfort in friends. Upon explaining what had happened, Icrontic Tech writer Robert Hallock spoke first.

“Bake it in the oven,” he said to me. What in the world was he talking about?

“Bake the card in the oven,” he restated.

“…does that actually work?” I inquired.

“I wouldn’t be suggesting it if it didn’t,” he replied.

And with that, I was preheating the oven to 385°F.

It’s a piece of cake to bake a pretty… GPU

I have to admit, I was completely skeptical of this technique. I had lost video cards in the past (alas, poor Radeon 9700 Pro! I knew him, Icrontic!) and it was always an exercise in “trash n’ buy.” You don’t recover from a failure like this. But the Internets told stories of intrepid young gamers giving their dead GPUs to the inferno of an oven, and receiving working cards in return–literally baking a dead GPU like it was a potato. What could possibly go wrong?

Preparing the ingredients

Shield your eyes, kids. It's a naked 8800 GTX!

I had nothing to lose. I was ready to IDDQD my 8800 GTX, or die trying (in the ensuing fire that one must assume can only be produced by tossing an expensive piece of electronics into a receptacle reserved for making green bean casserole). The preparation was rather simple: Get that oven preheated to 385.

Wait a minute!

Let’s get serious for a moment and talk about this concept, and why it is not completely insane.

A video card’s many chips–especially the GPU–depend on each and every solder contact being 100% healthy. Unfortunately for video cards, they are regularly subjected to dramatic temperature changes that cause their PCBs to undergo thermal expansion and contraction, a process that can ultimately warp the board and cause hairline fractures in the contacts.

By baking the card at 385°F, you’re exposing the card to a constant and evenly-distributed amount of heat. It is just enough heat to soften up the solder (a process called “reflowing”) which, after setting, should reconnect every component and cause the card to function properly again… But it’s still an absurd thing to see and do.

And now back to baking…

To prepare the GPU, the large cooling assembly must be removed before baking. It’s a simple process with the 8800 GTX: There are a few silver screws on the bottom of the board, and two black screws on the end near the DVI ports. Once these are removed, the heatsink can be carefully worked away from the GPU and memory modules. A quick disconnect of the power cable for the fan, and you have yourself a nekkid 8800 GTX.

As a final step, you’ll want to clean off any remaining thermal compound on the GPU itself; this is best achieved with Q-tips and isopropyl alcohol.

This just isn't right

This just isn't right...

Next, rummage up baking pan. I layered mine with a clean sheet of aluminum foil just to ensure that no residue from cookies, potatoes, chicken nuggets, or Lord knows what else could possibly come into contact with my GPU.

Following that, roll up four small balls of aluminum foil–one for each corner–and set the GPU on top. Make sure the video card’s GPU is facing upwards! Now it’s time to get your bake on, soldier!

Place the GPU cake into the oven on the center rack, close it up, and set a timer for 10 minutes. I have to say, this step was one of the most difficult and awkward things I have ever done.

Placing a near and dear piece of hardware that once cost me $550 into a frigging oven just feels wrong. Like playing Half-Life on the Xbox wrong. Like editing in Windows Movie Maker wrong. Like bringing Natty Boh (Ed: Lonestar?) to a party wrong.

After ten painstaking minutes elapse, remove the GPU from the oven (careful: contents are hot). Set the GPU cake on the counter and let it cool over night.

In the interim, you’ll notice a very interesting new smell filling your kitchen. No worries though, as the 8800 GTX is RoHS compliant! Feel free to safely enjoy the savory scents of a baked GPU!

I left a note for my relatives to not touch my cake in the morning. At the bottom, in small lettering, it read: “Also yes, I did, in fact, bake my graphics card in our oven last night. Fear not, it is for SCIENCE!

Serve with icecream

The following morning was the moment of truth. I brought the GPU back into my computer room to frost the cake with Arctic Silver; once the icing was on, I re-mounted the cooling assembly and secured the screws. It was now time to install the baked 8800 GTX and see if the cake was a lie (I am so, so sorry).

I installed the card, connected the PCIe connectors, turned on the PSU, and–after taking a deep breath and saying a prayer–pushed butan. The blower on the 8800 GTX spun to life, the motherboard yelped its POST, and like the phoenix rising from the ashes, my HP w2207 displayed the boot sequence. I had successfully resurrected my dead GeForce 8800 GTX by baking it in an oven.

It's aliiiiiiive!

Look! It's moving. It's alive. It's alive!

I write this piece on a display powered by that very 8800 GTX and I have had no problems in the last 24 hours of operation. I’ve gamed, browsed, rendered, and relaxed, and the card is completely stable.

My mind is blown. I would have never expected this to work. My 8800 GTX may now be a zombie, but it’s a happy zombie, and that makes me a happy Dr. Frankenstein.

Disclaimer: Engaging in a bake-off with computer components can be dangerous, can destroy your hardware, and will certainly void any and all warranties. Attempt at your own risk.

OM NOM NOM

OM NOM NOM.

70 Comments:

  1. Awesome. Just, plain, awesome.
    The writing alone was worth the read. XD

  2. This article makes me hungry.
    In a related anecdote, a friend of mine tried the "towel trick" with his Xbox 360 after its output got garbled, and it sprung back to life, too.

  3. This article easily one of Icrontic's top 25 maybe even 20.

  4. I wonder if I should trying this baking trick with a laptop that has a malfunctioning usb port from a static discharge to the USB port...and/or the dvd/cd-rw that no longer reads CDs

    Questions, Questions, Questions

  5. I'm surprised the junk on the backside of the card didn't drop off. Kudos!

    btw, this method of reflowing works on laptop motherboards too

  6. Walt, you should just register already

    It takes about 35 seconds....

  7. @prime, Ok I joined....(too bad I can't link my past posts to the new profile)

    @septimus, Thanks for the tip...I'll put this to my list of questionable activities to do this winter.

  8. Excellent work, Bobby; a great read.

  9. Welcome (officially) to Icrontic, photodude!

    Septimus - all the stickers are all brittle now, they hardly remain, but I was surprised myself to find them intact.

    If you're going to bake a lappy, make sure to remove all the plastic parts as possible. And the screen, obviously. The heat would probably do more harm than good unless you strip it down.

    Glad everyone is enjoying the piece, this was one of my favorites to write.

  10. You just HAD to throw in a Portal reference. For that, your card is going to commit seppuku to restore honor to your PC.

    ...but ranting aside, glad to hear it works. Between the excellent story and the mouth-watering epilogue photo... well done! Oops, that pun wasn't intended! Nooooooooooooooo!

  11. OrionGamer

    Superb Science.... XD

    hey just to wonder does not the PCB board melt>>>??

    I done the Towel Trick..... it worked and saved me £200

  12. Ace_Jambo

    Wow!!! I will have to try this on my 8800 GTS 640mb that broke a year back when i took the heat sync+fan off to clean it...

    Oh oh and i will also put in my reacently deceased HD 4870 that died on me last week after 15 Mins of playing borderlands... this is after a suck of the Dyson tho... again cleaning dust out of the Heat sync is a kIller of my cards!!!

  13. lolol

    its good i found this article, otherwise my cousins dead laptop would still be sitting on the table i left it on 2 weeks ago, collecting dust. thank you septimus and bobby

    and btw, the humor in the article made me smile a few times (LOL-ing is a non-function)

  14. Vacuums generate massive static electricity as ionized dust particles rush across the plastic of the unit's attachments. Bad mojo. Better to use canned air.

  15. Ace_Jambo

    O right.. Thanks Thrax well im looking at a 5770 next with the option of a second next.... But one question.... Was this over fan-assisted?? 196C with a fan assisted wont melt the 2 cards il be baking in the morro?? :S

  16. @prime, Ok I joined....(too bad I can't link my past posts to the new profile)

    What you get at Icrontic:

    Personal service. Lincoln (the dev) just went through and manually edited the DB so that your old posts came over to the new account.

    Welcome to our home

  17. That was awesome!!
    I've frozen a lot of hardware but never baked it
    Easy on the A1 sauce

  18. What's wrong with editing in Windows Movie Maker? I've been using it for 6-1/2 years and 159 episodes of my webshow, "Online Video" at www.loudmouthtim.com .

  19. Great write up, Bobby! Baking GPU cake seems to be very tasty.

  20. Wow, now that's what I call a PROTIP!

  21. What's wrong with editing in Windows Movie Maker? I've been using it for 6-1/2 years and 159 episodes of my webshow, "Online Video" at www.loudmouthtim.com .

    Windows Movie Maker =

    Lynx requires =

  22. But Windows Movie Maker has three wheels. Clearly it's the better choice.

  23. ^ best possible answer

    10/10

  24. This article easily one of Icrontic's top 25 maybe even 20.

    Which is saying something because Butters has been here longer than I have!

  25. But Windows Movie Maker has three wheels. Clearly it's the better choice.

    Three wheels works for millions of toddlers. They can't possibly be wrong.

  26. I did the same thing to my 8800 GTX back in june.
    Unfortunately without the pictures, I was in a bit of a hurry.
    But here is the thread.
    http://icrontic.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83994

    [EDIT Link fixed, and BTW the gfx is still working fine, and it has been working fine in the five months since I attempted my bake-off. ]

  27. Nick

    I wish I would have known about this when my laptops gpu took a poop..I sold the laptop on ebay for real cheap and the person who bought it got it working in 12 hours.....even sent me a e-mail like he was taunting me.....lol.

  28. Windows Movie Maker =

    Lynx requires =

    so, so true.

    So glad everyone is enjoying this piece. If you decide to have your own bake-off, do let us know how it turns out!

    And Winga - I agree. A well baked GPU will have enough intense flavoring that A1 will only detract from it. nom nom

  29. I did the same thing to my 8800 GTX back in june.
    Unfortunately without the pictures, I was in a bit of a hurry.
    But here is the thread.
    http://icrontic.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83994

    Oh yes, I remember. I'm hardly the first to do this (and n00bs on reddit have been calling me a hack, stealing the idea, ect). That was never the point. The point was to spin a web of the experience of my bake. The whole story was so asinine and absurd, it just had to be shared. If I'm telling a story, I might as well make it informative and functional. What a blast it was to do.

  30. gamerazor89

    how about 8600gt? i have the same problem. can we used the same method to fix the prob?

  31. Bobby, this is currently circulating around my office. We are now deciding whether to try this with some dead Nokia Firewalls and a couple of 2960s.

    It's like a regular barbeque!

    Gamerazor89, theoretically, yes. Please note that Icrontic take no responsibility if you bake it too long and your mom tries to serve it for your dinner.

  32. If you're going to bake a lappy, make sure to remove all the plastic parts as possible.

    I'll be striping the laptop down to just the mainboard if I can..... I'm a little concerned about the plastic CPU mount and the various other plastic connectors on the board....but as it stands, it's functionally dead, so no harm in trying
    ______________

    It would be interesting to see some benchmarks from the Baked GPU, I wonder how they stack up vs the previous unbaked state? Did it restore function at the same specs, or could baking cause a performance hit?

  33. ido

    nice one!
    must mention that this is a good way fixing xbox 360`s rrod and ps3`s ylod.
    also a heat gun can be used insted of an oven , and dont forget 2 importent things:
    1-DONT move the board at all for a good few hours after the process!
    2-DO remember to apply thermal compound on the gpu after it cooled off.
    good luck to all the bakers!!!

  34. NOTE: Even though many things are better on grills then using an oven, this is not one of them.

    Great article Lynx!!!

  35. "Like bringing Natty Boh (Ed: Lonestar?) to a party wrong."

    offended. bringing Boh to a party is like when your Aunt Bertha brings her infamous green-jello-with-green-beans-because-they're-green-like-the-jello-so-they-must-match salad. it's gross, but it wouldn't be Thanksgiving without it.

  36. Dude, clean out the bottom of your oven. That shit's gross.

  37. Bobby, this is currently circulating around my office. We are now deciding whether to try this with some dead Nokia Firewalls and a couple of 2960s.

    It's like a regular barbeque!

    hahaha! that's awesome.

    ido: those are very good points. Forgetting thermal compound means your resurrected GPU won't enjoy the zombie life for long.

    And yes, heat guns can also be used for this. I preferred an oven in this instance, as I had no idea where the actual fracture(s) was. Using an oven ensured even heat along every point on the board.

  38. Hamad

    Wohoo,
    cool man.
    I have my 8800GTX still functioning. I don't know if I'd be brave enough to try this if it fails. The 8800 GTX is an awesome piece of hardware that has yet to fail me after serving for 3 years now. It has kept my urge to upgrade in check so far.

  39. Dude, clean out the bottom of your oven. That shit's gross.

    NO U

    Wohoo,
    cool man.
    I have my 8800GTX still functioning. I don't know if I'd be brave enough to try this if it fails. The 8800 GTX is an awesome piece of hardware that has yet to fail me after serving for 3 years now. It has kept my urge to upgrade in check so far.

    Yeah, I love the thing. It still gets by in most games today at full settings with minimal slowdown. I feel it's only now starting to be eclipsed by new game engines, which is impressive considering it's almost four year run

  40. Would heat guns introduce too much static?

  41. lovingly done bobby. :]

  42. lovingly done bobby. :]

    Thanks! I had a feeling you'd enjoy this one, crossing video games and food in such a way...

    Would heat guns introduce too much static?

    That's a good question. Being inexperienced in the method, I don't have an answer. Anyone else?

  43. Shorion

    So guys, I in fact have 2, yes thats right, 2 * 8800 cards, a gtx and a gts that have both been given me the blocks of garbled colours and textures as they slowly make their way into the dark abyss that is my spare room with all the other $500+ cards, cpu's, hard drives that have failed over the years. I'm going to try this on the weekend to both cards to see if it works and I will let you know!

  44. Shorion, we want to hear your results!

  45. I did this to an old broken 8600GT. I was really doubting it but it worked! I was so happy

  46. I so wish I'd heard of this before I tossed the card. On the other hand, is there a better excuse for buying a new card?

  47. I so wish I'd heard of this before I tossed the card. On the other hand, is there a better excuse for buying a new card?

    Perhaps the lottery.... but no, there aren't many. Of course, the 'I'm a geek, I need the newest stuff' excuse is always good enough for me

  48. God.... I love this place. If I die, let me come back as a Server that hosts Icrontic!!!

  49. It would be interesting to see some benchmarks from the Baked GPU, I wonder how they stack up vs the previous unbaked state of the GPU? Did it restore function at the same specs, or could baking cause a performance hit even though it restored function?

    I would expect it functions normally, but you never know...

  50. It would be interesting to see some benchmarks from the Baked GPU, I wonder how they stack up vs the previous unbaked state of the GPU? Did it restore function at the same specs, or could baking cause a performance hit even though it restored function?

    I would expect it functions normally, but you never know...

    I second.

  51. I see what you guys are doing here.

    I'll run some numbers when I get the chance. Probably not until after the weekend.

  52. Just learned a friend's husband tried this with a dead Xbox360 after I posted it to facebook, result an undead Xbox360 with a nice toasty smell. I really look forward to doing this with my old laptop.

  53. Shorion

    It works!

    Fantastic solution. Best fix ever. Both cards now work and I've tested them with WIC and Left for dead 2 for 8+ hours on each and they are going strong.

  54. More satisfied customers. Good work Bobby!!!

  55. Davor

    Believe it or not, people also restore old audio and video tapes by baking them.

    After decades of storage, the stuff that binds the oxide to the mylar base can start to break down, resulting in poor playback quality at best, and sometimes in irreversable damage to the source material. Baking the tape is a way to firm up the binder long enough get a digital transfer. The "recipe" is different for tapes than for PC boards, though :-) Lower temperature, but longer bake time, and you're supposed to flip them periodically, like pancakes...

    I've never tried it myself, but http://www.tangible-technology.com/tape/baking1.html describes the process.

    Wendy Carlos had to bake the masters for "Switched-On Bach" and her other early albums, when she wanted to release them on CD.

  56. HAX!

    7800 GTX from a Dell xps, worked like a charm! Put it in the oven while heatup, kept it there for five minutes i full heat, then let it stay in the oven with the hatch open to let it slowly cool of.
    WHY didn't I see this a year ago?? The laptop's been laying around as a fancy paper weight for a year...

  57. Preliminary reports suggest that this just saved my 8600GTS as well. Will know for sure after work.

    Lynx for bringing this to my attention.

  58. we're all bakin' fools. I love it!

  59. When I was in Detroit last weekend, Thrax and I baked GQ's old 7900GT and his old 8800GTS (Prime has photos). I didn't have much time when I got home before I had to catch my flight out for the holidays, but a quick test with the 7900 suggests it's still borked. It's driving me nuts that I didn't get a chance to test the 8800, though. I'm hoping it worked for that one.

  60. Haggas

    Just tried this last night with an old ATI 9000 in a dell Inspiron 8200. Seems to have worked. However need some help on the thermal compound. There's some blue putty foam(?) stuff on the GPU, appears to connect to heat sink on bottom of Keyboard (it is a laptop). Can I re-use this stuff? If I use Arctic Silver will I just be gluing the keyboard to the GPU preventing me from getting my computer apart in the future? Help!

  61. If you buy regular Arctic silver, no. If you buy Arctic silver adhesive, yes.

    Regular AS5 will do just fine

  62. Haggas
  63. I see what you guys are doing here.

    I'll run some numbers when I get the chance. Probably not until after the weekend.

    still interested in the unbaked vs baked benchmarks.....

  64. yikes, thanks for the reminder!

    I'll put it on the list.

  65. Could it possibly help a 9600GT that seems to not be working very well and randomly loses signal to the monitor. The card may also be one of the ones with bad bumps on it.

  66. Hard to say, but if the problem is intermittent, I'm not sure if baking is the solution for you. You're at a higher risk of losing the card if it still works... my card was completely dead, so I had nothing to lose.

    But who knows, there's only one way to find out.

  67. OK, so I benchmarked my post-baked 8800GTX. I found very minor changes in test numbers. Spec Viewperf in 3DS Max showed a loss of 2 points, which isn't a really big deal. Viewperf Maya on the other hand actually showed a slight increase in performance. Cinebench R10 had the same results...

    So uhh.... yep.

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  68. Summary: No change. These numbers fall within a range that is less than what could be considered the margin of error.

  69. Did it restore function at the same specs, or could baking cause a performance hit even though it restored function?
    I would expect it functions normally, but you never know...
    Summary: No change. These numbers fall within a range that is less than what could be considered the margin of error.
    OK, so I benchmarked my post-baked 8800GTX. I found very minor changes in test numbers. Spec Viewperf in 3DS Max showed a loss of 2 points, which isn't a really big deal. Viewperf Maya on the other hand actually showed a slight increase in performance. Cinebench R10 had the same results...

    Good to see that the expected results are as expected, baking restored function at the same specs....within the margin of error

  70. I'm thinking that my 8600 may not have come out of the bake quite as well as everyone else's 8800s did. I'm not getting graphic glitches anymore, but gpu folding also doesn't appear to be working. Seems that it always ends up EUE erroring on me now. Haven't tried playing any games since baking my card yet... been too busy with the move.

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