Blue Screen of Death on Mac

Sledgehammer70

6 Apr '06, 7:22 pm

I also Found Mac Power book with the same error!

http://www.eng.bu.edu/~anc/macosx_bluescreen/blue2.jpg

profdlp

6 Apr '06, 7:24 pm

The exact same error, too.

Sledgehammer70

6 Apr '06, 7:27 pm

Intresting!

Buddha16

6 Apr '06, 8:23 pm

I think the stop addresses are a bit different. But it’s humorous none the less.

Camman

6 Apr '06, 9:51 pm

nice obvious photoshop, thumbs up

Sledgehammer70

6 Apr '06, 9:52 pm

I don't think it is photshop....

Camman

6 Apr '06, 10:04 pm

Quoting Sledgehammer70

I don't think it is photshop....

ok. looks to me like the blue screen portion looks too bright and crisp to be part of a photo, looks like an obvious chopjob to me

Sledgehammer70

6 Apr '06, 10:06 pm

I have now seen 7 images online with different error messages.. there is even videos of guy recreating the error. Maybe one of the images above is PS'ed but the error is true and is happening all over...

Camman

6 Apr '06, 10:09 pm

Quoting Sledgehammer70

I have now seen 7 images online with different error messages.. there is even videos of guy recreating the error. Maybe one of the images above is PS'ed but the error is true and is happening all over...

congrats to you.

Sledgehammer70

6 Apr '06, 10:12 pm

Some one is a bit in a Bad mood!

Camman

6 Apr '06, 10:14 pm

exactly

Sledgehammer70

6 Apr '06, 10:15 pm

Maybe if you stopped eating Yellow peppers for luch all would be good again

Leonardo

7 Apr '06, 12:05 am

For what it's worth - these timid Mac using pioneers are using the beta Boot Camp.

primesuspect

7 Apr '06, 12:23 am

I'm sure the drivers are pretty beta as well. You've got apple software engineers writing windows drivers for hardware that has never been supported in windows before. Either way, this is more of a PR move than anything - dual booting is kinda dumb. What I want (as a mac user) and what almost every other mac user that I know needs is a full-speed virtual windows a la Virtual PC.

Or I need fully functional, native versions of the apps I need to use for Mac OS... Which is never going to happen, so a full speed virtual PC would be second best.

Gravite2090

7 Apr '06, 12:33 am

omf! is there a why is prime's hair yellow thread and I just have not found it yet?

Camman

7 Apr '06, 12:33 am

Quoting primesuspect

I'm sure the drivers are pretty beta as well. You've got apple software engineers writing windows drivers for hardware that has never been supported in windows before. Either way, this is more of a PR move than anything - dual booting is kinda dumb. What I want (as a mac user) and what almost every other mac user that I know needs is a full-speed virtual windows a la Virtual PC.

Or I need fully functional, native versions of the apps I need to use for Mac OS... Which is never going to happen, so a full speed virtual PC would be second best.

Personally I don't understand that, people aren't clamoring for Apple hardware, why pay all that money for Intel hardware with an Apple logo on it just to run a virtualized Windows session? Seems to me that it would make sense to just spend the money on standard PC hardware. I was under the impression that OSX was the big "advantage point" for most Mac users.

I would think it would be just the opposite and people would want OSX that could run natively on standard PC hardware.

primesuspect

7 Apr '06, 1:43 am

I prefer OS X to WinXP, there's no doubt about that. And currently the only way for me to use OS X is to use a mac.

With that said, I CANNOT function without a few critical apps for my business. Primarily, Quickbooks Pro. Yes, there is a native OS X version of Quickbooks Pro 2006 for mac, but it does not do the two critical things I need it to do: payroll and credit card processing. So I MUST use the windows version.

So I am forced to use a VM for that one single app. If Intuit would make the mac version of qbpro the same as the windows version, I could cut the cord completely and be 100% productive with a mac. However, until that day, I need a VM.

I don't really "clamor" - I just prefer Mac OS X and there is no way in the forseeable future that we will get it on commodity hardware (legally, anyways).

Camman

7 Apr '06, 1:50 am

Guess that makes sense, but I didn't say people were clamoring for Mac OSX, I was saying that people are not "clamoring" for Apple hardware and I was under the impression that it was supposedly the operating system that "set it apart".

Now I guess my question is what is that you do on your Mac that you've "cut the cord" just out of curiosity, because I know you have a G5 at your office right, so what else do you run on it besides basic office apps like word processing, spreadsheets, etc. that makes the switch from Windows to OSX so worth it. I'm not trying to start a pointless PC vs. Mac debate, I'm honestly just curious as the few people I know who have 'switched' don't know really why it's so great other than they had an iPod or saw an Apple ad or something like that..

GHoosdum

7 Apr '06, 1:31 pm

Gravite, there's discussion of prime's yellow hair over in the yearbook thread.

Mal51 (Guest)

7 Apr '06, 4:27 pm

In Response to Camman,

My theory.

If they did it in photoshop, they did an excellent gradient style of making the LCD screen look realistic and managed even to get a realistic camera flash in the left corner. To see this, look to the left of the screen, then to the right and you will notice a definate difference in color contrast. If this was a photoshop image, he took the time to make sure the text was slightly smaller when looking from left-to-right. Even the the ever-so-slightly "grainy" appearance is consistant with the entire image. The image looks grainy, because the image compression on his digital camera is low. Conclusion: This is not likely a photoshop image.

primesuspect

7 Apr '06, 4:28 pm

Quoting Camman

Guess that makes sense, but I didn't say people were clamoring for Mac OSX, I was saying that people are not "clamoring" for Apple hardware and I was under the impression that it was supposedly the operating system that "set it apart".

Now I guess my question is what is that you do on your Mac that you've "cut the cord" just out of curiosity, because I know you have a G5 at your office right, so what else do you run on it besides basic office apps like word processing, spreadsheets, etc. that makes the switch from Windows to OSX so worth it. I'm not trying to start a pointless PC vs. Mac debate, I'm honestly just curious as the few people I know who have 'switched' don't know really why it's so great other than they had an iPod or saw an Apple ad or something like that..

Your "curiousity" tends to be pretty confrontational sometimes

But I'll bite....

I don't run spreadsheets, and I rarely (maybe once a month) use OpenOffice write to type a document.

I use my mac primarily for unix administration. I manage all of our servers from the office, and the native unix underpinnings of mac os x make things just slightly more efficient than doing the same work at home, on windows, using putty.

For example, we've been recently migrating dozens of clients to a new (more powerful) server at the datacenter. I will totally make a blind average here and just say, for discussion's sake, that I can migrate 1 client in 10 minutes on my mac, while it takes 15 minutes or so on windows. Simple things like being able to use the native terminal to wget and tar/gzip files, move them around via command line, etc. whereas on windows I have to use graphical tools like CuteFTP and multiple putty windows. It's just more efficient. I can't explain it any better than that.

Secondly, the mac is just way prettier. Call me a wuss or whatever, but I love eye candy, and I love OS X because it is just a really sweet looking OS.

I use Adobe Indesign and Adobe photoshop at work. Indesign, I use pretty regularly. I prefer using indesign on a mac. There are just very slight differences, mostly in keyboard shortcuts, that I just prefer on the mac.

That's another thing. At home, i find myself wishing I had certain keyboard shortcuts that I use constantly on the mac. All in the name of slight increases in efficiency.

If I could run OS X on pc hardware, I'd be all over that ****. I could give a crap about the mac hardware. I actually don't like it that much, although I haven't used the new intel hardware yet.

On a side note, I've never seen an apple ad in my entire life, except for the one "ellen" switch ad on the internet, cause that was some funny ****. So the reason I switched was not because of that.

I detailed my reasons for switching in another thread, but to summarize—it was so I could become an expert at Mac OS X administration because I support several clients who use macs all the time, and I want to give them service equal to what I give my windows clients.

Sledgehammer70

7 Apr '06, 8:31 pm

All good reasons Prime... But as myself being a hardcore Graphic’s Guru and Gamer I find Mac's to be on the opposite spectrum of all things...

I can’t stand PS in a Mac environment, but I know people who love it, so I guess it is just preference…

I know I can pay games on Mac's with emulators but that just sucks!

airbornflght

9 Apr '06, 12:45 am

Well, my yearbook room is total mac area (im fixing that) we are useing imac g3's (yeh, the red and white crt's...I use photoshop in there and on my windows machines, and I dont really care for the mac os, primarily because I cant find anything on those computers. they dont even have a list(menu) of installed apps. I hate os 9. Now back to the pertinent matter at hand. Now all the mac users can get all of our nasty viruses. Yee! Now aside from that, I find mac hardware to be overpriced for what I get and mal-supported software wise. I like my windows box that I do whatever on, change out hardware, change os's. yeh.

Camman

9 Apr '06, 2:34 am

Quoting primesuspect

Your "curiousity" tends to be pretty confrontational sometimes

But I'll bite....

I wasn't trying to bait you, my curiosity which was actual curiosity not confrontation, was based around the fact that everyone I know who uses a Mac is a college student that has a Mac laptop and uses it only for Word processing, web browsing, and email and goes around touting the wonders of Mac and saying how much better it is than Windows XP and it was more of a fad thing for them rather than actual not liking Windows XP. So, I wanted to hear someone who was an actual IT Professional break down why they prefered it or what features would cause them to want to use OSX over XP.

my apologies if you thought I was inferring that you, or all Mac users, were of the type that just wanted an apple computer because they saw some ad or because of the popularity of the ipod, that was not my intention I was saying that I didn't personally know anyone who could be considered competant with computers that used a Mac therfore I didn't have an informed opinion other than "omg Bill gatez sux and my ipod syncs up perfect with my ibook"

airbornflght

9 Apr '06, 8:47 pm

Meh..I've used mac and pc, not extensively on the mac but enough to know what I like. The way I see it, yes, the mac is a little bit more user friendly and more intuitive. Not to mention they are sexy. But now let me tell you what I dont like about them: The Price$$$ tag..thats the biggest turn off for me. The next biggest gripe that I have about the macs is the hardware, you can only buy there hardware (major hardware, not a pci card) and they have to have the biggest retail markup out of any oem supplier. The next thing I didnt like is that they wouldnt let windows run on their system natively, which now, may be a thing of the past. A few more gripes I have about the mac community instead of the mac itself. Some (the majority) of the mac community thinks that steve jobs was sent from god and everything he touches/creates/imagines is holy. No.. And they think that there hardware is supperior to all else. To these people I would like to say that Just because you paid $11,000 for your graphics workstation, that does not make it better than my $1,200 system.

Ok, now lets go over to the pc world. I can't go gripping at all the companies, so I'll just focus on a few of the big names. Microsoft first. Okay, yeh, Their os is installed on whatm 70% of the computers in the world? Just becuse they hold the majority of the market share, I hate that they think that they can release I half way done os. I mean, How long have we been on the nt architecture, regardless of the fact that it works. It's time to move on.

Ok, now for intel, yeh, they put out decent processors, but they are usually overpriced compared to the comparable amd model, not to mention they ARE space heaters. but I think that intel has finally realized that they cant just keep pushing the clock higher.

And now for amd. my baby, I am a little partial to them, but lately I've been a little with them, they used to be the underdogs with the better processors not to mention they were cheaper. Now they have better processors and may still be the underdog compared to intel, but forget about being cheapers!! There prices have gone through the roof. but oh well.

These are my main gripes, not a whole lot with the pc world, mainly because it's more "open" which I am a fan of. I can switch out hardware, customize it, and run almost any os I want (except for osX, *ahem*) on my pc and if steve job would quit using his os to force people to buy his computers, then the world would be better off, a little bit. because, lets face it, If you could put osX on your dc Opteron system prime, would you ditch the apple hardware?

EMT

11 Apr '06, 1:35 am

Quoting primesuspect

I use my mac primarily for unix administration. I manage all of our servers from the office, and the native unix underpinnings of mac os x make things just slightly more efficient than doing the same work at home, on windows, using putty.

For example, we've been recently migrating dozens of clients to a new (more powerful) server at the datacenter. I will totally make a blind average here and just say, for discussion's sake, that I can migrate 1 client in 10 minutes on my mac, while it takes 15 minutes or so on windows. Simple things like being able to use the native terminal to wget and tar/gzip files, move them around via command line, etc. whereas on windows I have to use graphical tools like CuteFTP and multiple putty windows. It's just more efficient. I can't explain it any better than that.

I'm not ripping on Macs but if you haven't heard of cygwin (www.cygwin.com) it's a Unix command shell for Windows. Once you get it installed it's quite helpful. I do enjoy getting to use Unix out of the box on Macs. Not sure why it's missing things like watch and wget though (maybe they're optional)...

primesuspect

11 Apr '06, 4:48 am

I have heard of cygwin. It's just more band-aid to help windows do unix

Camman

20 Apr '06, 11:46 pm

Sent this in as a news submission but I doubt it'll be posted

The Inq has a short news bite about a direct comparison in speed of OSX and Windows XP and foun that XP was signifigantly faster when running WoW at high resolutions.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=31121

primesuspect

21 Apr '06, 4:45 am

Why would you doubt it would be posted?